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Wednesday, 11 November 2009
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If God loves you...
So it’s been a couple weeks since my last post on this – life has been a bit crazy. I talked for two posts about how I don’t find the idea in the Bible that God loves everyone. But at the same time, I am floored by the intensity of the love that He has for those in Christ. If you are in Christ, God loves you because Christ is the Beloved One of God. It is a love that cannot bear to sit on the sidelines – an active love that does something. It is most highly evidenced in Christ’s incarnation and death.It is a demonstrated love.
“By this the love of God was manifested in us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world so that we might live through Him. In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.” 1 John 4:9-10
“Hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out within our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us. For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.” Romans 5:5-8
It is an effective love.
“But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ.” Ephesians 2:4
It is a love, that once applied to us, promises to bring us all the way home.
“What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? Who will bring a charge against God's elect? God is the one who justifies; who is the one who condemns? Christ Jesus is He who died, yes, rather who was raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us. Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? …But in all these things we overwhelmingly conquer through Him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Romans 8:31-39
If this is the love of God, it seems like you would have to weaken it to say that He loves everyone. If God loves everyone, then everyone would be saved.
Just as a tying-up-loose-ends thing, several people mentioned Matthew 5:44-45: “love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.” Note that the text does not say He loves them; it simply describes what theologians call common grace, described in Romans 9: “What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction? And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory.” God waits to destroy those He does not love for the sake for the sake of those He does; and in the process He keeps the world going round to eliminate any excuse they may have. Loving our enemies is our extension of the common grace of God. How the character of God is applied in our lives is often slightly different from the actual actions and motivations of God. This is even more evident in the related passage of Romans 12:18-21. (“Vengeance is Mine”.)
This feels like a really abrupt ending to the blog, but I need a nap too much to figure out an eloquent conclusion.
Saturday, 07 November 2009
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Lord, help
I don't have words... show me Your Word to speak.
I am empty... fill me with your truth in love and gentle mercy.
I am hopeless... teach me to watch and pray in hope.
I am grieving... fill me joy in who You are - without losing compassion.
I can't do this, God... please do it through me.
Tuesday, 27 October 2009
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And this is my life
We take a break from our regular programing to bring you a summary of personal news for the last two weeks.
I decided I need to learn Greek. So I bought a set of flashcards an am borrowing a textbook and learning in my spare time. The words I have memorized:
compared to the words I still have to memorize (for first year Greek):
One guy in my music theory class is struggling, so I offered to help him - it should be quite interesting spending a couple hours a week with this kid. He's fun, but very hard on himself. (In keeping with the helter-skelter manner of this blog, tis very windy outside and I just noticed that the sky has turned white. When did that happen? It was blue the last time I looked!) Yesterday, the guy I help with theory got distracted for a minute and asked "Do you paint?" Because my hands looked like this:
Nope, but my wing did tie-dye Sunday night and we're going to wear the shirts to chapel on Friday. Since my roommate wasn't there, I did one for myself and one for her. Guesses on which is which?
I'd say "you know you're a science major when..." but I'm not, or "you know you're a nerd when..." but I've never matched that category really either, so I'll just say I felt rather odd that the first thing I thought of when I saw the dye that had stained my arm was "DNA"!
Speaking of my roommate, we decided to do her bachelorette party now even though her wedding's not 'til December because the wedding is right after finals week. Part of this included a scavenger hunt at the mall, where the main object was her 6'3", blonde, bearded, normally wearing shorts and T-shirt fiance in disguise. I have to admit even I wasn't 100% sure before she walked up and gave this man a hug:
He said wandering around the mall was quite the interesting study in reactions; a far different response than he normally gets - and since the headphones weren't playing music, he heard every word of the rather nasty comments directed his way.
I got new running shoes Yay! But I never thought I'd be running in PINK. I never wear pink. And now I'm stuck with it on my shoes 'cause that's what asics are doing these days. Yuck. I should have asked for the guy shoes.
And just for fun, this is what it looks like when I run. I love the morning dark.... meh daylight savings is ending this week. Lame.
I'm out of pictures, what else has been going on in my life? Pain levels in my back have been up the past few weeks; each day is an "extra grace" sort of day and I am very thankful for kindness of God in so many other areas, and for the opportunity He's given me to rely on Him and have a continual reminder (in the form of burning pain) of Who is the support of my life. Each breath is a gift, friends. Never forget to thank God for sustaining you, for holding your atoms together and making each molecule of your body move properly as it's supposed to work. He is indeed gracious.
Hmmm... I think my life updates blog is going to have to become two, because I don't want to bury one of the coolest things at the bottom of a long post... What's been going on in your life?
Thursday, 22 October 2009
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Does God Love Everyone?
Some of where I’m coming from for this post is here. If you commented on that post, I tagged you. If you’d prefer not to be tagged in future on this topic, please say so.
There are only four out of over fifty verses on the love of God that could challenge this view. But I think they can all be dealt with.
In order of difficulty, easiest first: “But when the kindness of God our Savior and His love for mankind appeared, He saved us…” (Titus 3:4-5a) So I thought this verse presented possible difficulty because of the love “for mankind” part, only to find that pretty much only the NASB even sticks the words “for mankind” in there, because actually “love for mankind” is one Greek word for which other translations just say love. For good reason – the actually word is philanthropia, it only occurs twice in the New Testament, never in the Septuagint, and it is the weakest of the words for love possible – just a general, affable benevolence. In other words, this verse doesn’t really have much to do with what the Bible as a whole says about the love of God.
1 John 4:8b – “God is love.” Just because the essence of love is contained in the character of God does not mean that His love applies to every individual. After all, Hebrews 12:29 says that “our God is a consuming fire,” but He does not apply His wrath to those who are saved; otherwise, we would all be going to hell whether we believe in Jesus Christ or not. And John’s immediate application of the fact that God is love is not to love everyone, but to love other believers, a point about which he is very strong. So this verse doesn’t prove anything.
John 3:16 – “For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.” Now what I’m about to say is not semantical gymnastics intended to get out of the implications of “world”, but rather a framework to which my eyes were opened in my Ephesians class which I’m applying to this verse because it makes more sense of it in the context. History is about God making
Jesus Christ the hero. The Fall of man created a problem – the curse indicates that it is a worldwide problem. Because of their dominion over the earth, it’s a human problem that needs a human solution. To get a human/man (in Hebrew, Adam), God focused on a nation: Israel, which was given promises of a perfect and redeemed world. But the one problem is that if Messiah/Adam belongs to Israel, the solution to the Fall only redeems the one nation from its effects. God brings in the multiracial church because you need a human-wide solution to the problem. This human-wide solution, by nature of man’s dominion, becomes a world-wide solution (Romans 8). The church is the beginning of God’s new creation: a human-wide solution that, when they come to glory, redeems the world. And because all of this comes about by, through, and in Christ, God does it all to make Jesus Christ glorious. From that framework, “world” (in Greek, kosmos: order, world, universe, adorning) does not mean every individual in the world; rather, it is creation/new creation language dealing with the plan of God. This idea is confirmed by the next verses, which say that the Son was not sent to condemn the world but to save the world, though said Son says Himself that “he who does not believe is condemned already.” So He’s condemning individuals while saving the world? Unless you have some really interesting word gymnastics to do, it doesn’t make sense for “world” two verses earlier to mean every individual in the world.This next verse is the one that almost convinced me my last post was wrong, and it’s probably one you’ve never heard of: Deuteronomy 10:18: “He executes justice for the fatherless and the widow, and loves the sojourner, giving him food and clothing.” Here’s a class of people who God loves that is not Israel or people in Christ. But it’s still that same active love that does something on behalf of the one loved, not a gooey feeling. So I had to ask, “who are sojourners?” A simple word search shows that when God is talking to Israel, as He is in Deuteronomy, sojourners are almost always foreigners who have joined themselves to Israel – they reside in Israel because they worship the true God and participate as far as a non-Jew is able in the life of the nation. So basically, this is an extension of God’s love for Israel, because these sojourners are as incorporated into Israel as they can get. It doesn’t prove that God loves everybody.
Can you provide any Biblical evidence that God loves every person?










